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Sunday, April 17, 2016

Open Thread

Say whatever is on your mind. Time to put
The last post to bed

238 comments:

  1. What's on my mind?

    Shouldn't we step back, take a deep breath, take stock of the many good things we still have, and express a bit of gratitude for a change, instead of constantly sniping at each other in an attempt to tear everything down?

    AOW posted beautiful music this weekend by Edward Elgar for instance. How many have taken a few minutes to listen to it, and see what Elgar's music is all about? Who knows? It might change your perception of Reality for the better by giving something lovely, beautifully crafted, and meaningful to enjoy for a change.

    Great music is a wonderful reminder that "Man does not live by bread alone ..." So is distinguished Art, great Literature, magnificent Architecture, beautiful Gardens, the wonders of Astronomy, Engineering and higher Mathematics for those with brainpower enough to comprehend those things.

    Right now the nation seems mired in negativity. It chokes the life out of every topic, fosters anger, and generally makes life miserable.

    I wonder why human beings are so fascinated by everything foul, vile and corrupt, while seeming indifferent to Beauty, Nobility, Intellectual Brilliance, high Ambition and any hope of ever achieving Holiness?

    Something to think about ...

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    2. Of course the mistake you make, Freethinke, is assuming you are yourself the arbiter of good taste.
      But your advice is sound. Attended a performance of Britten’s String Quartet No. 1 and found it very sustaining.

      Of course, you should avoid Godard and his questioning of the efficacy of high art in a material culture that makes a prostitute of everyone.
      Something to think about ...

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    3. I'm glad you have come to appreciate Benjamin Britten, Ducky. I like him too.

      Let me share with you what I said to our friend FJ at his place earlier today. You probably won't like it, but if you read me correctly, you are sure to understand that I don't arrive at my opinions uninformed and filled only with pre-conceived notions. You have a right to love La nouvelle vague, if you choose, of course, but I also have a right to find it dismal and unappealing. My opinions never come from books, articles and expressions of GroupThink. They are mine and mine alone –– based on the milieu in which I was fortunate to be raised, of course:

      Sorry to have been so crude earlier, FJ. Severe sciatica along with our political plight and immense frustrations with out -dated software has affected my disposition ...

      HOWEVER, my opinion of French films, always beloved by the Left and a lot of arrogant, ignorant, militantly untidy "students" from the SICK-sties remains highly negative.

      There IS no viable competition to CAPITALISM. It is the best thing that ever happened to the human race, and anyone who would deny that is either insane, severely deluded, or an absolute moron.

      I love classic French cuisine, French architecture from Gothic Cathedrals, Chateaux, Formal Gardens, Exquisite Furniture form Versailles on down to Country Cottages. I love the French countryside, French classical music from Lully, Couperin, Loeuillet, Rameau, through Saint -Saens, Fauré, Debussy, Ravel, du Parc, Messiaen, Poulenc, Duruflé, and even Satie.

      I love French painting too from Poussaint and Ingres through Delacroix, etc. and the Impressionists and even some of the modernists.

      On the other hand French LITERATURE I could cheerfully live without –– with the possible exception of Collette. :-) I've read enough Dumas, pere er fils, Maupassant, Zola, Flaubert, Stendahl, et al. to allow me to form the opinion that a morbid preoccupation with human misery, dark passion, bitter irony, decadence, dreariness, and inveterate pessimism along with a nearly-complete lack of any quality I could recognize as humor pervades the novels and short stories of France.


      The French films I have been unlucky to experience seem to strengthen and extend the mood of lowering gloom, deprivation, cynicism, nihilism, and despair I found in French fiction.

      Is it any wonder then that leftists ardently embrace French films?


      The Islamaniacs loudly and proudly and assert, "We love death. We are a culture of Death. Will live to kill, maim,destroy, and enslave."

      Is it any wonder then that the Marx-inspired Left would express deep enthusiasm –– even reverence –– for morbid, despairing French Films, cynical, iconoclastic French Philosophers and Islamaniacs?

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    4. Of course, you should avoid Godard and his questioning of the efficacy of high art in a material culture that makes a prostitute of everyone.

      ...and of course, the most successful prostitute of twentieth century French capitalism was Godard himself. Says a LOT about the efficacies of competition (from America) and capitalism for effecting social change.

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    5. Ooops, gotta go. Gotta cash in on the latest Socialist Rap songs/groups... :)

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    6. Freethinke, you seem to believe that high art consumed with the correct disposition and in sufficient quantity will transform an ordinary human into Kubrick's Star Child.
      Pardon me if I'm skeptical and take a more restrained position.

      You underestimate the range of French cinema at the time. French film comedy did its best to preserve early American slapstick. Try Pierre Étaix or Tati, especially Mr. Hulot's Holiday though I think you'll find he anticipates many of our contemporary complaints.
      Also, Bresson and Rohmer were among the most insistently religious film makers of the time.

      Comes a time when we just have to embrace the great hurly-burly of life and accept our condition, however.

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    7. You aren't making sense, Farmer.

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    8. The market for film innovation was evidently highly lucrative ducky...

      ...follow the money. :)

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    9. I thought this was instructive, Farmer:

      "UPDATE 19/04/2016 : This story seems to be false. (read more)"

      Stick to Breitfart.

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    10. That's just sad. For ALL his innovation, he was only a 2 bit hooker trying to take his clients "around the world"...

      *shakes head*

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  2. The Alternative to Hillary ( Trump) Is Far Worse...

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    1. Good news! Hillary will soon be single!

      ISIS has put out a hit on Huma. Bye-bye.

      You now have a chance.

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    2. If Hillary gets in, keep an eye on Sharlene Wilson. Mystere and I will be monitoring what happens to Sharlene Wilson if that beast gets voted in. It's not going to end well. I hope I'm mistaken on this.

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  3. Something to think about ...

    Indeed FreeThinke. Putting our differences aside (feud), and reading your comment for content and the spirit it seems written, as they say, spot on.

    It may be impossible to bury the hatchet, but for me, I'm putting it away for now.

    Politics is nasty business. However, it doesn't need be, nor should it be, made personal.

    Thank you for your comment FreeThinke.

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    1. You are the one that makes it personal and ugly name calling asshole RN.

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    2. Let's try not to perpetuate that, Tom. Trading insults certainly doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile, does it?

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    3. Thank you FreeThinke. Again you are correct.

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    4. Thank you, Les. I hope this means we can stop antagonizing each other now? I see no need or legitimate reason to be disagreeable –– i.e. accusatory, insulting, badgering or baiting –– when expressing disagreement.

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    5. RN agreeable? HA HA HA HA HA You obviously have no clue the extent this asshole RN has gone for at least 10 years to be the asshole of the net. You be nice to him. He has been given multiple chances over multiple years. He enjoys being an asshole. He enjoys attacking blogs. He enjoys spreading his Jew hate. He enjoys his superior, bigot attitude. He enjoys being a KKK hater and uses violence. It's like being nice to Hitler, but then maybe you don't recognize hate, bigotry, and just plain evil. Good luck with him.

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    6. Tom, apparently you haven't read very much of the stuff I've posted for the past seventeen years. One of the most evil things anyone can do, Tom, is to respond to evil with more evil. In that way it ESCALATES.

      As the song says, "Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me."

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    7. Thank you FreeThinke, again.

      Now to set the record straight for TOM, I have been blogging for only 6 years and 10 months. Not "at least 10 years".

      Yes FreeThinke, there is no need to antagonize, insult, accuse, badger, or bait by either side. I am reminded of two Italian men, brothers as I recall that didn't speak for over 30 years. Neither could remember what the feud started over but both knew they were right, whatever it was.

      For my part in our feud I offer my apology and hope you will accept it.

      I however cannot do the same for a few others who comment here. But henceforth I'll simply ignore them. I'm actually grown quite tired of wallowing in the mud with them. My bad I know.

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    8. Then appease evil FT and befriend RN.

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  4. Rattrapper just gave me the heads up; there are so many things to be thankful for. I'm glad the government doesn't send us to the gulag for disagreeing with them. This is one of many things that make us a great nation.

    Hey Lester Carpenter, I hope you had a great weekend! Yes, I'm holding a truce for now. The only one I won't hold a truce for is Pookie Toot-Toot.

    Lisa, thanks for the open post!

    Mr. E.
    Mystere's Moonbat Slayer Club

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  5. If Donald Trump was hoping to get a quick rise out of Hillary Clinton with a new nickname - "Crooked Hillary" - it didn't work.

    "He can say whatever he wants to say about me, I really could care less," Clinton said on ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," "I don't respond to Donald Trump and his string of insults about me.".


    First of all, it worked for me
    Secondly, Who would believe anything that she said anyway!

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  6. I'm thinking you might want to start packing your bags if you think America cannot survive another liberal president. the Republican party is on their way down because they have encouraged and exploited a politics of hate that created the toxic environment that allowed a clown like Donald Trump to bring it down.

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    1. I am sorry you seem so ardently to want to believe that. It is no more true than some of the sadly, childish hate rhetoric carelessly tossed about by too many on the Right.

      I am no longer a Republican, haven't been one for more than ten years as a matter of fact, but that doesn't mean I could ever support the Democratic Party's platform either.

      I believe that most of us on both sides of the Great Divide are basically decent people who would like to achieve very similar goals for the betterment of mankind.

      Where we run into trouble is the fundamental disagreement we have about to how best to achieve a kinder, gentler, fairer, more prosperous society.

      The Left believes in Statism –– a very strong Central Government with quasi-dictatorial powers able to FORCE it's concepts of "fairness" on three-hundred-million people most of whom have their own, highly diffuse ideas as to how best they might fulfill their own destiny.

      I can't really speak for anyone but myself, but that ties into my believe that ALL of us have "inner resources" we rarely-if-ever tap into that have tremendous power to help us find solutions to problems –– ON OUR OWN –– that work better for us than looking to out side forces for help on the mistaken ASSUMPTION that we are powerless, helpless beings incapable of growing up and living happily fulfilled lives as free and independent beings.

      When I think of the early settlers who came to St. Augustine, Florida, Roanoke Island, and later Jamestown, Virginia, Plymouth, Massachusetts, and the pioneers who opened up the American West after the Louisiana Purchase, and the conditions THEY had to live with, and what THEY managed to achieve with little or no help at all from anyone, except each other and the religious faith that bound them together, I could WEEP for the weak, spoiled, cowardly, fractious, childishly demanding people we have become, despite enormous progress in the development of creature comforts enjoyed today by even our poorest people.

      That 's what I meant when I said we ought to take stock of ourselves and express more gratitude for what we have and who we are.



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    2. The Left believes in Statism –– a very strong Central Government with quasi-dictatorial powers able to FORCE it's concepts of "fairness" on three-hundred-million people most of whom have their own, highly diffuse ideas as to how best they might fulfill their own destiny.

      Yes, some on the left believe in the all-pervasive totalitarian statism you are referring to. Many do not, however I suspect the number is growing. Government does serve a useful purpose and as the size and complexities of the society in which we live increases the demands on the government expand as well. Where we completely rational beings we would no doubt find better ways to resolve both our domestic and international challenges.

      Have you though much about AI (artificial intelligence), and the inevitability that our nation, as well as the world at large, will confront the effects of tremendous improvements in efficiencies with the corresponding job losses due to AI and the increasing use of robots? If so it is likely you have also thought about what that will mean with respect how humans will need to start thinking about their value as related to the work they do. Because there will be less work for everyone to do. I’d be very interested in your thoughts on this FreeThinke FreeThinke.

      I can't really speak for anyone but myself, but that ties into my believe that ALL of us have "inner resources" we rarely-if-ever tap into that have tremendous power to help us find solutions to problems –– ON OUR OWN –– that work better for us than looking to out side forces for help on the mistaken ASSUMPTION that we are powerless, helpless beings incapable of growing up and living happily fulfilled lives as free and independent beings.

      Excellent observation FreeThinke. My grandfather and father, as well as my grandmother and mother taught me these same values. My siblings and I grew into adulthood believing we could accomplish anything we set our minds to as long as we put forth the effort required to achieve it. All four of us remain thankful for the lessons they taught and the examples they set to this day.

      They also taught that there was no shame is asking for advice (help) from those who were wiser than ourselves. After all, asking another for advice or help is the highest form of flattery.

      It is intriguing to consider how AI and robotics are going to change so much of our present day world. I’m thinking Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, and Madison would be amazed at the differences of their physical world and ours today. But perhaps they would not be that surprised to see it had happened.

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    3. Sadly, I believe it's mostly the Obama administration which has created a politics of hate...that, and the leftwing media. And our universities.
      What kind of people think it's a good idea that our schools have to be "safe" for our university students?..that they can't think anymore but have to buy into only leftwing opinions? Scary stuff.
      Obama has done so much on his own...so much jumping to conclusions, firing experienced military, destroying much of our health care...well, the list's so long I can't write it here..
      I've had 3 Hispanic grocery check out clerks confide in me that they're scared of the high minimum wage.."We won't be able to afford anything!" Why do they get it and leftwingers can't?
      And Republicans have done little fight this awful downward spiral.
      We used to raise kids who wanted self sufficiency, now we're raising frightened, uninformed robots whose parents won't let them BE, whose schools coddle them, who are taught inappropriate information at inappropriate ages.

      Stupid to carry on here, I know....just couldn't let that statement go unanswered...

      No, we cannot survive another liberal president...not one who'll sink the economy into even more debt... who'll continue to apologize for us around the world and never seek two sides' opinions. No, we can't survive a Supreme Court full of leftwingers who don't respect the Constitution.

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    4. I've written rather a lot here and there and on my blog about what-I-see-as-the THREAT of increasing robotization, etc.

      I am not a Luddite, but looking back it's not hard to see that most of the social and economic problems confronting us today –– and the vastly expanded capacity to wage war on an ever larger and more inhumane scale –– stem from the Industrial Revolution.

      Most human beings are neither greatly talented nor particularly intelligent, yet they certainly have the same need for affection, a sense of being valued and of course the basic, God-given rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness (however they may conceive happiness) as much as the rest of us.

      Without what Albert Schweitzer called "the beautiful dulness of long labor" life becomes mere, purposeless existence. Living without passion of purpose. That pitiable condition generates ennui, feelings of being oppressed, a sense of hopelessness that leads to an increase in "free floating hostility," purposeless conflict, depression and despair.

      We are perilously close to that now. What else do you think could account for the increase in self-destructive behavior, drug addiction, mindless sexual promiscuity, lack of commitment, lack of respect, lack of love, etc.?

      Centuries ago, when I was in high school, our French teacher read us a small, satirical essay –– in French –– about a monarch who had absolute power. He commanded his subjects to cater to his every whim to the point where the court composer was compelled to write a new Choral Cantata extolling the virtues of the King every day.

      The more he was indulged, the more miserable, discontented, petulant and demanding he grew.

      Naturally this monarch's life ended badly.

      The moral of the story we were told was:

      Toujours plaisir, n'est pas plaisir.

      Experiencing nothing but pleasure is not pleasurable.

      I see our society today as a great deal like that poor spoiled monarch.

      Most of us just don't have enough good, honest, meaningful work to do anymore.

      The ugly, noisy Factory with its production lines and endless repetitive labor has done a great deal to dehumanize the labor force.

      Unfortunately I have no ready solution to offer, do you?

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    5. Why do they get it and leftwingers can't?
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      Did you ask them what percentage of food costs is accounted for by the wages of minimum wage workers?

      Since low wage earners are almost always spenders by necessity did you ask how much of that increase would accrue back to the grocers through increased demand and a higher velocity of money?

      Did you point out that it is absurd to think prices would rise as much as their wage increase since their increase represents a small portion of the total price?

      Did you discuss the "Walmart syndrome" whereby low wages are augmented by social welfare spending?

      I understand that I'm just a leftist and I should defer to right wingers because they "know economics" (chuckle) but I think your position is poorly considered.

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    6. Sadly, I believe it's mostly the Obama administration which has created a politics of hate...that, and the leftwing media.

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      So hate radio and the likes of O'Reilly have had nothing to do with stirring up a latent bigotry and fear in the fringe right base? Get real. Limbaugh the Uniter, I love it.

      The fringe right has been mining this division ever since Net Gingrich issued the "Contract on America".

      Now your hatred has reached its logical conclusion in Drumpf and Ted Cruz. It's wonderful listening to their respective camps act as peace makers.

      Your opinion should be dismissed out of hand for thinking this divide is the product of one side, anyway.

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    7. DUCKY, why did you choose to respond with characteristic sarcasm and acrimony to THE most negative comment on this otherwise-pleasant thread when there was plenty of other, more agreeable, and more INTERESTING commentary for you that might have served to further better understanding and acceptance of one another?

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    8. And, as a typical liberal has been taught to think, my opinion "should be dismissed out of hand" is your opinion. THERE's the real American spirit! Open minds, ability to speak one's truth! But "Oh my GOSH, I saw TRUMP written on a wall here at the university and now I need COUNSELING to deal with my feelings!" :-)
      Nobody ever said, anywhere, that this divide is the product of one side; clearly, I'm stating a viewpoint; my viewpoint, which is every bit as valid as yours.
      I have absolutely no hatred, never have. I have disgust and disdain for people who don't understand how dispiriting their policies are to the American citizen, all in the guise of less poverty. JOBS reduce poverty, not the spirit-sucking gimmes of the left.
      My GOSH, how can ANY liberal not win an election with "I'll give you EVERYTHING!" (ever seen the Obama deficit?!)

      That you think prices don't rise as a reflection of higher wages is a great example of how you think...get a grip. You need to have had a business to completely understand. I have, and when I hired people my prices had to go up or I had less profit; I prospered, thank God, but wouldn't have otherwise. By the way, my employees prospered, as well.

      I'm not for any candidate...please stop speaking for me every chance you get.
      Watch O'Reilly some time, then tell us how bigoted and fear-inducing he is!! Amazing...just talk without experience, that's the typical liberal!



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    9. Why do I respond with sarcasm, FT?

      Because z's position is absurd. She pushes the meme about "both sides" but is incapable of considering alternative opinions. So the snark is primarily out of frustration.

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    10. Z, I never said there would be no price increase. There are always inflationary pressures.

      How much of an increase? Certainly nothing like your absurd claim that low wage earners would be priced out of the food market.

      I notice you didn't answer any of the questions. It's a complex issue (actually, Hillary's position may be most prudent) but I appreciate your willingness to "consider both sides". Has Faux Snooze presented any alternative position other than no increase? What was it?

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    11. Thanks for answering, Ducky. I'll take that as a sign of progress, but I still think we'd all be better off expressing our disagreements with polite curiosity instead of militant accusations and insulting rhetoric.

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    12. low wage earners would be priced out of the food market.

      ducky, - Why do the poor queue at Supermarkets in Venezuela? Why is their inflation rate 400%?

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    13. If you are suggesting that a rise in the minimum wage to a level slightly more than it was a few decades ago (inflation adjusted) will cause hyper inflation then I can only shake my head.

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    14. It was the three grocery clerks who fear they'll be priced out of the market. They brought it up. When wages go up, prices go up, Ducky...whether you like that truth or not. Shake your head till it hurts, $15 an hour is no 'slight level' of increase.
      Why do you go to the extreme, saying "they'll be priced out"?...they themselves said it'll be difficult to afford anything if the minimum wage goes up. Not "priced out." Take a breath and take it slowly...no need for hyperbole to make your points because then you lose.

      And you circumvent anything unpleasant for you to address, too. Every time.

      Democrats: "PROMISE THEM EVERYTHING!" "Gee, we might win, imagine!?" man

      And PLEASE stop with the ridiculous and false comments about ME. I read some of your accusations about what I listen to, what I read, and I wonder where you get this stuff. I listen to and read EVERYTHING; anybody not doing that shouldn't be voting, or commenting about those things he's not up on, frankly.

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    15. If you are suggesting that a rise in the minimum wage to a level slightly more than it was a few decades ago (inflation adjusted) will cause hyper inflation then I can only shake my head.

      Where do you suppose the "source" for the inflation in those "inflation adjusted" numbers lie?

      The only reason why food costs more today than it did decades ago is because it "can". Just ask a Venezuelan.


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    16. There's no "wealth" created in legislating higher minimum wages. There's ONLY inflation in them.

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    17. When he felt the time was ripe, President Roosevelt asked Secretary of Labor Perkins, 'What happened to that nice unconstitutional bill you had tucked away?'

      On Saturday, June 25, 1938, to avoid pocket vetoes 9 days after Congress had adjourned, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed 121 bills. Among these bills was a landmark law in the Nation's social and economic development -- Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (FLSA).

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    18. I listen to and read EVERYTHING.
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      Yeah, Democracy Now!, The Majority Report, The Nation, New York Review of Books ... you're a regular Sarah Palin.

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    19. @Z Kid, Ducky was commenting to me at Lisa’s how the cost of employees doesn’t reflect that much on the cost of goods…you can’t make this up…!!
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      No, you low functioning dipstick I asked whether or not you asked your imaginary grocery workers what percentage of cost was attributed to minimum wage workers.

      Simple. Even kid or a coupe of the other sociopaths you cater to at the mothership can understand.

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    20. If $15/hr is a good minimum wage that "does no harm", $100/hour would be even better wage!

      Heck, let's make it $1,000/ hour!

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    21. @ ducky: Is the Palm d'Or still the highest "honor" in the int'l Commie timocracy?

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    22. Too busy preparing for Bernie 2016?

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  7. Toujours plaisir, n'est pas plaisir.

    Experiencing nothing but pleasure is not pleasurable.

    Absolutely agree. While it is true that all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy it is also true that all play and no work (or thought) will yield the same.

    I see our society today as a great deal like that poor spoiled monarch.

    There is truth in your observation FreeThinke. Unfortunately it seems no one has yet arrived at a solution to this obvious problem. If the world population continues to grow and the earth's ability to sustain human life becomes more taxed, eventually becoming unable to sustain the growing population nature will solve the problem. t won't be pretty. That is making the assumption we don't destroy ourselves first.

    Most of us just don't have enough good, honest, meaningful work to do anymore.

    Agreed. Which is only going to trend towards less and less meaningful work as AI and robotics grows. Having managed manufacturing facilities much of my mature adult life I've seen first hand the effects of robotics and its effect on the bottom line as well as the human "casualties" of mechanizations. AI will accelerate this and tax our world to a even greater extent. Together we must address this inevitability. Assuming the above two scenarios don't happen first.

    The ugly, noisy Factory with its production lines and endless repetitive labor has done a great deal to dehumanize the labor force.

    The result of steady movement landing us where we are today. Interesting enough Marx actually saw capitalism in the 1800's as a positive and productive economic system. I doubt very much he was able to foresee the future to know what capitalism as achieved. But he did foresee that capitalism would result in greater leisure time for people. He simply saw and acknowledged the superiority of capitalism but believed it would give way to a better system, socialism. his utopian idealism is what got him in trouble.

    Unfortunately I have no ready solution to offer, do you?

    No FreeThinke I do not, although I wish I did because I would most certainly be a very obscenely wealthy man if I did.

    I have many for questions, and a few ideas. Like most people.

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    1. One of my great aunts –– a plain-spoken woman with little formal education, but a wise and loving heart –– wrote these words in my 6th grade "Autograph Book:"

      "Get your happiness out of your work, or you will never know what happiness is."

      Most of the family criticized her being "too austere," but I knew exactly what she meant, and have always been grateful to her for saying it to 12-year-old me.

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    2. My high school band directors wrote in my yearbook in 1968 (my 11th grade year) the following... Les, always set your sights above the dollar. He was killed in an auto accident the following year.

      I have never forgotten his words and have always knew the meaning within them. Find work you enjoy(love), perform it with passion, and the rest will follow.

      Thanks for sharing the story FreeThinke. Your great aunt was indeed a very wise woman.

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  8. Why are my comments disappearing?

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  9. I see you comments FreeThinke. Try refreshing your browser if you haven't already.

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    1. I was finally able to post the last "big one" in two parts after trying unsuccessfully three separate times. I was not able to post in the proper place. For a while "reply" was completely closed to me. God only knows why.

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  10. TO DUCKY from FAR ABOVE:

    PART ONE

    Life is like a smoergasbord, Ducky. There are many dishes that appeal to many, but the entire feast never appeals to ALL, which is a great part of its charm.

    I have a limited liking for pickled herring, but a gargantuan appetite for good shrimp salad. I absolutely cannot abide oeufs en gelée considered a great delicacy by many.

    I could go on, but I'm sure you've gotten my point. There are enough things in this world to interest me for several lifetimes, but I feel under no obligation to oblige myself to become intimately acquainted with everything. It's a physical impossibility anyway.

    As far as Kubrick's Star Child is concerned, I must tell you I have no idea who or what that might be. The deeply unpleasant A Clockwork Orange was all the Kubrick I ever wanted or needed to experience, thank you very much.

    As for the transformative capacities and exaltation of high art, I can only speak for myself and what that has done for me. I would be no one and nowhere without the blessed ability to love and appreciate true beauty in many and varied forms.

    (CONTINUED)

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  11. TO DUCKY from FAR ABOVE:


    PART TWO

    The difference between us, I think may be that you seem to believe we have a duty to relate everything we see and do to "social significance," and the potential betterment of society at large, while I unashamedly live to enjoy myself as much as I possibly can without doing anything to harm others.

    Speaking of flat out enjoyment, did you by any chance see The Gefilte Fish Chronicles on PBS last night at 7:00? I adored every second of it. Real people acting perfectly natural doing something together they've loved and enjoyed for more than six decades.

    It reminded me so much of my Italian family get togethers in our Brooklyn Days when my Grandpa, who was born in 1870 was still alive, I found myself smiling and laughing through tears.

    The kind of character revealed in The Gefilte Fish Chronicles seems to be fast dying out of the world –– a tragedy for Civilization. I thank God every day for my precious memories, all that is left now of a vanished world.

    The Chronicles brought it all back, but the 'stars' of that show are all in their eighties and nineties, God bless them!

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    1. The Chronicles sound interesting. Has it been shown outside New York? It does have a DVD release.

      Seems to owe a bit to the Cinéma vérité you claim to dislike.

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    2. I don't live in New York anymore, Ducky. Haven't for many years. I'm a good twelve-to-fifteen-hundred miles from Gotham. So, yes The Gefilte Fish Chronicles have, indeed, been shown outside New York. PBS programming these days is pretty universal.

      I only turned it on out of idle curiosity, and frankly expected to dislike it, BUT... What a pleasant surprise!

      Rarely is any presentation these days both comical and almost unbearably touching.

      Do your best to see it. Please don't ANALYZE it, just ENJOY it for the lovely, warmly human thing it is.

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  12. Thanks for the tip FreeThink. I think I would enjoy it and I know my 83 year young father would love it. Hopefully I can find it, or it is aired on PBS again.

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    1. Check PBS on Goggle, and see if you can't find it there. They often rebroadcast their special programs online.

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  13. Like a Pied Piper leading idiots instead of rats – rats are more useful than college students and often cleaner – the Sanders movement is dedicated to the principle that “What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine because I want it.”

    Funny (and true) shit once again by one of my favorite columnists.

    And Hillary, with her unerring ability to choose poorly in politics, is trying to follow along. Someday maybe someone can make a movie about this festival of progressive fascism called Commie and Commier.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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    1. That article is spot on RR thanks

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    2. I often use the Pied Piper analogy, myself, when describing the way too large a majority of people are always too willing to follow "The Latest Trend" blindly without giving any thought to what that might imply.

      Our schools would do well to offer compulsory courses in the study of "RAMIFICATIONS" from both the historical and theoretical perspectives.

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  14. So nice to see you all playing well together

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    1. Indeed it is. I'm hoping this new found comity will last, even though there are always a few who prefer the Food Fight, Barroom Brawl, Ozark Mountain Feud atmosphere –– probably because it's much easier to respond reflexively than to give the featured topic thoughtful consideration.

      We shall see what we shall see, eh, Lisa? ;-)

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  15. Along the lines of what FT has been saying...

    We ruin our own lives via constant activism and stitch-and-bitch.

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    1. Thanks, AOW! Naturally, I agree. ;-)

      As the Greeks famously said: "MODERATION IN ALL THINGS."

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  16. Why don't you show your 83 year old father some naked pictures of Hillary and shock him back to reality!

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  17. Obama and his ilk want you to allow freaks like Bruce Jenner to use the same bathroom as you and your Daughts .
    Is that what you want?

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    1. Try to remember that virtually every home in the USA has anywhere from one to three UNISEX bathrooms. ;-)


      On SHE-MALES in the BOYS ROOM

      If the creature has a dick.

      (S)he's pulled a dirty trick.
      
He(r) agenda makes me sick.

      

If (s)he had it vivisected,

      (S)he may be misdirected,

      But as "girl" must be accepted.



      Think of the loss of poise

      That would be shown by boys

      To see a fellow male without his toys!
      



      ~ The Vice Versifier };^)>

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    2. Farmer, when did the Titan Uranus sock puppet become generic?

      You used to use it only when you were dishing on gays.
      Bring back kuhncat !!!

      Is Titan Uranus a member of mystere's spank it club?

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    3. Trannies aren't gay? Who knew?

      And you can't bring back what you never were.

      ... and I would never associate with a club that would have me as a member!

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    4. btw - When is Bernie Panders gonna get a clue?

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  18. Is it just me that thinks so or is JBG trying to nudge this thread into the weeds? Again...

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    1. It does look that way, doesn't it? However, if we truly want to establish and maintain civility and more honest and thoughtful commentary, don't you think it would make more sense to ignore The Beast, and do our best, even if not a "Believer," to follow the timeless advice of Jesus Christ, who said:

      "Be not overcome by evil, but [instead] overcome evil with good?"

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    3. Yes you do JBG, exactly like Trump.

      Yes FreeThinke, it does make sense to Ignore the Beast.

      In today's increasingly bitter partisan environment it is becoming significantly more difficult to "Be not overcome by evil, but [instead] overcome evil with good?"

      Guess it is time to pull out the magnifiers and failing that the microscope.

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    4. I like Walt Whitman's succinct advice:

      "BE CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL"

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    5. RN civil commentary? You obviously have no clue how big an asshole RN is. Weak minds are easily duped.

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    6. Now now Tom, let's give RN the opportunity to stay civil on this thread. If he desires to stay calm, let's not toss rotten blog eggs and tomatoes to incite a blog war.

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  19. America is already in the Toilet , vote for Hlary and you will be pulling the flusher.

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    1. Fortunately, not ALL of "America" is worthy of being flushed into the sewers. Only about half our people qualify as Waste Products –– the Nihilists, Nattering Nabob of Negativity, those who believe Hillary to be a credible, desirable candidate for POTUS, the purveyors of Rock, Rap, HopHop, Sadism, Pornography, and defenders of and apologists for Islam.

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  20. Trump wants to "make America Great again".

    Have the conservatives figured out how Trump will do that? Because Trump hasn't. Bwahahahahaha!

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    1. The Left HATES violence...

      BWAH-HA_HA-HA!

      "If you like your doctor, you can keep him..."

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    2. Mr. Trump is an accomplished BUILDER of large, highly significant buildings not only in New York City, but all over the world. If you had ever tried to get permission from "City Ha'' on any level, you'd realize that it take a person of tremendous vision, courage, patience, and the ability to be both diplomatic and forceful at just the right time to get past the moronic impediments to creative entrepreneurship put in the path to true progress by the agents of GOVERNMENT.

      Our president, his handmaidens and henchmen, –– and MOST members of congress, D AND R, –– have never done a thing in their lives other than INTERFERE with those who PRODUCE goods and services we truly WANT and NEED or life enhancing works of art.

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  21. There are opposing forces at work folks that while appearing on the surface to have very different agendas actually have the very same goal.

    The goal? To keep America divided along partisan lines as both reap the benefits of division.

    The two-party political system actually props each other up as power and influence merely shift back and forth at various intervals.

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    1. Thanks for your explanation Dr.. Phil.

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    2. You're welcome.

      Dr.. Phil? He's still around?

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  22. Rapper Rick Ross visited the White House on Friday as an ambassador for President Obama’s black and Latino youth program — and his court-ordered ankle monitor reportedly went off shortly after the president concluded a speech
    The ankle monitor, which he must wear as a condition of his release on kidnapping and assault charges last summer, beeped loudly shortly after the president concluded a speech.
    Ross was arrested in June 2015 on kidnapping, aggravated assault and aggravated battery charges after allegedly pistol-whipping a man who had been doing repair work on his house. The kidnapping charge was added after it was alleged that the man was physically prevented from leaving Ross’ house.

    These are the role models that Obama wants for our generation?

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  23. Today is primary day in New Youk...
    Today is the day to shut the naysayers up, day after day we hear Trump cannot win, he cannot beat Hillary, Trump is a bully, on and on.

    Well as Frank Sinatra would say: it's up to you New York, Neewww Yooorrrkkk!!!

    Time to get it done, show the country what you are working with, show them why you are called the Big Apple, the city that never sleeps.

    We have Cruz wheeling and dealing and trying to buy up all the delegates to keep Trump from securing the 1237 that he needs.

    Let today be a slam dunk for our man Trump. The pundits and the corrupt establishment are doing everything possible to derail this train, but the Trumpinator train is too strong to be derailed because it is powered by We The People and we are going to pull this train right across the finish line.

    Mr. Trump doesn't have to do this, he can go back into the private sector and enjoy the fruits of his labor, enjoy his family and his grandchildren, he could move out of this country like most of the elite have done and let this country continue on the path of destruction.

    But he choses to stay and get down in the trenches to fight right along with us, to bring this country back to the shining example it has always been for the rest of the world.

    We have all the paid protesters showing up at all of Trump's rallies, engaging in harassing pro Trump supporters, some even going as far as violence and spitting in Trump supporters face.

    Are we going to sit back and let the powers that be win, or are we going to kick butt and take names by going to the polls today and given Trump the wins he needs today, we can do it, Yes We Can!!!

    Remember: divided we lose, but by working together, we will win this election. The elites can try every underhanded trick in the book, by using his opponents to try to take as many of his delegates as they can, all this shows is that his opponents don't care about this country, they only care about themselves and will go to any lengths to win, and will go on national television and brag about it.

    Trump doesn't know how to play the game of deceit as well as these polished politicians who pretend to be outsiders when they are clearly established politicians who will lie, cheat and steal to be president.

    If they will do this to Trump and We The People, what do you think they would do to us and the rest of the country, if they ever made it to the White House?

    Choose wisely my friends and don't be intimidated by anyone, because, there's too much at stake, We The People and your children are counting on you to do the right thing. God bless you and God bless America!

    🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸USA USA USA!!!!

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  24. I just want to know what Jersey thinks about this. Anybody want to hazard a guess?

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    1. I just want EVERYBODY to know what I think about Jersey.
      He's a Fucking Idiot!. Period... No if''s, or but's. Simply a FUCKIIG IDIOT!

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    2. Now what would you bother to ask a question like that Will Hart, unless you are eager to stir up trouble and start another Food Fight or Fragrant Feces Festival?

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  25. Tonight The Donald put his foot clearly up Ted Cruz's ass and Hillary put the final nail in Bernie's coffin.

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  26. A fire on both their houses...
    Hillary's and Bernie's.
    Two Socialist Pigs.

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  27. The Liberal Nazis are the only people capable of electing another Ass-Wipe like we have now,

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    1. The Republicans elected W...

      ...jes sayin'.

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    2. And SO? What's your point?

      Jes. Sayin

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    3. ...Republicans are JUST as capable of electing an ass-wipe as are Democrats.

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    4. Thersites and Joe are both CORRECT.

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  28. Looks like Hillary nailed Bernie's coffin shut tonight.

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    1. Now she can crawl back in it with him!

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    2. Hans, is that your real face?

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  29. Only in America could a person with her baggage be excused from criminal charges and run for President of The USA. What a Freaken joke!

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  30. Every time that I come here to read the right wingers garbage, I getthe feeling that i need a shower.

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    1. Very interesting, thanks for sharing! IDIOT!

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    2. The wicked witch from OZ melted when she got splashed with a drop of water…

      Be very careful!

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  31. Looks like bUrnie is burnt, cooked, toast.

    Just like his ancestors!

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    1. "Just like his ancestors!"


      What an idiot you are Redass.

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    2. Was the product "Oven Stuffer Roaster" named after bUrnie?

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  32. Anyone Remember this LIE?
    “Listen up, you Assholes, ’cause I’m only saying this once! I have never had sex with that women, Monica Lewinsky! Did you morons hear me?” said Clinton, as he repeatedly jabbed his index finger toward the viewers at home.

    Well get ready for 4 years of more and more lies............

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    1. I must say even Bernie Sanders won't sink to committing adultery. Bill Clinton publicly humiliated himself by caving into his urges. I'm no fan of either Hillary or Bernie, yet I'll stand up for Sanders when it comes to his being faithful to his wife.

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  33. Maybe Capable, but it seems as if the Dems continually do so.

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  34. THE TRUMPER WINS YUUUUUUGE IN NEW YAWK
    but loses his home district -- I guess they know him best.

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    1. Could be... he must pse a threat to other millionaires/billionaires.

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  35. NO, you Liberal thumb sucking, bed wetting imbecile . It's not that at all.
    The one and only reason that he didn't win on Manhatten is because Manhattan is loaded with Progressive, tree hugging Idiots like you!

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  36. As this country of enlightened, progressive people, we Americans have come to understand that labeling certain groups of people who deal with handicaps, hardships, or who have made mistakes in their lives, or who, like a baby, have no control over the circumstances of its birth -- labeling these groups with cruel names, setting them up for mockery, shaming, and isolating them is inhumane. But see that Rich dumb fraud with the orange face and the stupid looking hair thinks. He's angry that we've matured now and have stopped labeling people and calling them names because of their life circumstances. Instead Americans decided to show some compassion and understanding toward our fellow citizens -- our fellow humans -- instead of making their lives more difficult than they already are..
    And this is who is "going to make our country great again"?

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    1. Got any hot sauce in your bag, PP? Cuz all us Democrats luvs our hot sauce!

      Now STOP labeling me! ;)

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    2. Another RW idiot with dumb assed videos

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    3. And these are the Idiots who want to run the country!

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    4. Hey A.P.P'e, are you trying to incite a nasty blog war here? A number of us are relaxing & trying to bounce ideas off each other, whether we agree or disagree.

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    5. Thank you, Mystere. KUPTGW, and do not weary in well-doing. ;-)

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  37. __ The Arrow and the Song __

    I shot an arrow into the air,
    It fell to earth, I knew not where;
    For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
    Could not follow it in its flight.

    I breathed a song into the air,
    It fell to earth, I knew not where;
    For who has sight so keen and strong,
    That it can follow the flight of song?

    Long, long afterward, in an oak
    I found the arrow, still unbroke;
    And the song, from beginning to end,
    I found again in the heart of a friend.


    ~ Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882)

    If that be true of an arrow or a song, what do you suppose is the ultimate result of of sending Invective, Ill Will, Slander, and Malediction "into the air?"

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  38. Sending ill will, slander and malediction into the air sends a signal to Satan and his minions to start tossing their slop at others.

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    1. Egg-ZACK-Lee, Mystere, Egg-ZACK-Lee!!!!

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    2. "Sending ill will, slander and malediction into the air sends a signal to Satan and his minions to start tossing their slop at others."


      Free Thinke: Egg-ZACK-Lee, Mystere, Egg-ZACK-Lee!!!!

      Three minutes later Free Thinke sends malediction into the air, hoping that someone will murder HRC.

      FreeThinkeApril 21, 2016 at 6:07 AM
      If so, her election might prove to be a good thing, Hans.

      Remember what happened to Banazir Bhutto?

      The same fate might await Her Heinous.

      Hope Springs Eternal! };^)>


      But it's not malediction when Free Thinke hopes someone is murdered. It's called loving his Lord. But maybe FT is just off his meds today?

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    3. No. FT is speaking with tongue-in-cheek hoping to inject a little humor into an otherwise dreary conversation.

      Literalists and legalists are among the dreariest, most dispiriting creatures in earth.

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  39. I'm not being anti women, I'm just being truthful when I say that the Muslims won't listen to a woman, especially Hillary Clinyon, with her big mouth. It will be just more of Obama's middle east policies if Hillary is elected.

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    1. If so, her election might prove to be a good thing, Hans.

      Remember what happened to Banazir Bhutto?

      The same fate might await Her Heinous.

      Hope Springs Eternal! };^)>

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  40. Saudi Arabia has threatened to sell off some $750 billion of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes the bill, according to The New York Times.
    So Obama went over there to once again Kiss the Kings ass.

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    1. Sure. Obama's real title should be:

      ANAL OSCULATER-in-CHIEF to ENEMIES of the USA

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  41. I stand with Israel not Saudi Arabia, Iran, or any other government faking as an ally and just funding terror quietly in the background.
    Do you hear that Barrack?

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  42. Actually you shouldn't get too upset over the Saudi threat cause it isn't likely to happen.

    Lets all hope the same fate doesn't fall upon HRC that befell Bhutto.

    Nor should one wish such a fate upo either Trump or Cruz should they be elected. As unlikely as their election to the presidency might be.

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  43. Warren eh? You'll have to wait until 2020 or 2024. (:-)

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  44. This country is getting Rediculous . Sorry but if your a man use the dam men's room. If your a Women use the Women's..End of story . Unless your an Indian then you use the Tee-Pee.

    Why should parents have to worry if perverts are in ladies room with their children.

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    1. It's people like this moron above that makes me feel like every time I come here and read these right wing comments I feel like i need a shower. It's truly a fact that some of these people here are kinda evil people .

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    2. Michael the sock puppet, you should use the admissions desk at the Rusty Chucklenuts Academy of Grammar and Autoandrophilia.

      Financial aid is available. If mention Ducky, I get a 10% cut.

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    3. Ducky, I'm genuinely curious as to why you seem so obsessed with "sock puppets" -- a term I coined by the way at least 15 years ago at FPM to describe the machinations of that evil character who called himself "Socrates," often nicknamed "Sock."

      But what does it matter? Virtually none of us uses his or her real identity. Each ID on every blog is wholly fictitious, so why would anyone care whether a person uses one fake ID or a thousand fake ID's?

      I see you constantly accusing people of being me, or any number of others, when it isn't so. You are wrong at least 90% of the time, I'd wager, so why play such a stupid game?

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    4. Because with so many posting fringe right gibberish it comforts me to think that the source is really only 2 or 3 not so sentient beings.

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  46. 1.a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable.

    There are heterosexuals straight as an arrow who fit this above definition. Probably more of them than those you would consider "perverted".

    You mean unless you're a bona fide native American (as opposed to an American of European descent) you use a Tee Pee.

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  47. JUDGE NAPOLITANO: SAYS, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT HILLARY CLINTON ARMED TERRORISTS AND LIED TO CONGRESS

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  48. Advice to that troll here, if you don't like what Shaw writes, don't read it. Simple, isn't it?

    PS. Shaw publishes other people's opinions all the time. So what the hell are you talking about?

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  49. So now we are going to have another reminder of Slavery , as we didn't have enough. This time it'll be right smack on our $20.00 dollar bills.Perhaps, a pile of union corpses who died to end slavery on the back of the bill would be a good counter balance.

    They might also replace "In God We Trust" with "God Damn America" so we'll always have a reminder of Obama's mentor.
    Just great. I carry cash, normally in twenties.

    But I'll switch to 10's now.

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    1. The Republican Party’s standard deserves to be hoisted by an honorable and decent man, like Romney or Ryan, elected on the convention floor. It is better to lose with principle than to accept a dangerous deal from a crazy man with an Orange face and funny haired demagogue.

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    2. So does the Democrat Party, but a syphilitic woman will be nominated instead.

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    3. ... but a syphilitic woman will be nominated instead..

      Do you really expect people to find any value whatsoever in your comment JC?

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    4. Doesn't seem like she was all that successful - Canada was, and still is, virtually negroe free.

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  51. Trump is setting himself up for as big a fall as King Kong (nice touch having him on the Trump Tower instead of the Empire State Building), but real gorillas are pretty placid creatures and it's hard to imagine him as one of them. He's so orange his ape side must be orangutan.

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    1. King Kong (nice touch having him on the Trump Tower instead of the Empire State Building)

      Had to, what with your Worst Lady (and all the planes attacking) already atop the Empire.

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  52. The chances of Donald Trump becoming the next president of the U.S. are about as high as the author of this blog winning the Nobel Prize for Literature , Or even winning an argument with a ham sandwich.

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    1. ham sandwich.

      It figures, pig that you are, that you'd somehow include pork product, SHAW.

      Now get lost piggy.

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  53. As long as the oil and gas cartel continue to manipulate and control the worlds waning fossil fuel market, and we allow boneheads like Barrack Obama, Hillary Clinton and their ILK to continue to patronize them and purchase from them, this endless cycle of Middle East sponsored terrorism will continue, unabated. The only people who win here with this current ridiculous situation are the arms sellers, legal or illegal. The sooner we wean ourselves off the oil with quick implementation of green technology, the sooner we'll gain leverage. Seems pretty simple to me. And I'm not a President, or Secretory of State...

    And PS...The Victim's families and American people deserve the truth about the Saudi insolvent, so tell President Obama to STOP pandering, Bowing, and Ass Kissing to the Saudi’s.

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    1. 100% due to fracking and drilling on PRIVATE land. Ozulu and his vile minions did everything they could to destroy the industry but BETTER AMERICANS prevailed. Your BOY can take zero credit for this boon.

      Now go play with your Kwanzaa present.

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    2. The TRUTH surely does anger you RR.

      Not surprising at all.

      BTW, your Kwanzaa present says a boatload about you sparky.

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    3. Mother Jones now RN USSR.

      What happened Ducky wouldn't pony up and renew your Pravda subscription?

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    4. Your hyperbole his hilarious RR.

      Keep on truckin dude.

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  54. ________ AN OCTOHEX ________

    Overbearing, brimming with conceit,
    Caustic, condescending, filled with bile,
    This self-styled judge’s mammoth self-deceit
    Overlooks the flaws that prove him vile.
    Tirelessly spoiling for a fight,
    Underrating, scorning those unlike
    Rotten Reds whom he adores on sight.
    Despicable as the predatory shrike,
    ‘Tis but his claim to erudition that saves his
    Sour soul from condign persecution.
    Smart Alecs of his ilk avoid close shaves, as
    Others of his kind shun retribution.
    Unpleasant to a fault he lives to vex
    Lavishly, so he has earned this hex.


    ~ FreeThinke

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