Thursday, June 2, 2016

More BS

So Hillary is going to tell us how dangerous
Trump's foreign policy is instead of bragging
about how great her's is and how it made the
rest of the world so stable.


  1. Trump's certainly dangerous to the New World Order of economic Neo-Liberalism.... but then again.

    1. The neoliberal project is to turn the "nation-state" into a "market-state," one with the primary agenda of facilitating global capital accumulation unburdened from any legal regulations aimed at assuring welfare of citizens. In summary, neoliberalism seeks unbridled accumulation of capital through a rollback of the state, and limits its functions to minimal security and maintenance of law, fiscal and monetary discipline, flexible labor markets, and liberalization of trade and capital flows.

  2. Relax Lisa. It's called campaigning and there will be enough poo thrown by both sides in the general election to make this a record breaker.

  3. Do You Trump supporters dumb enough to believe that Trump genuinely cares about veterans?
    But then againt Rump supporters believe anything and everything Trump tells them.

    1. Does anyone really believe that Bill Clintn's chief rape enabler really cares about women?


    THURSDAY, JUN 2, 2016 06:00 AM EDT

    Zombie time at campaign Hillary: Camille Paglia on Trump’s real strength and Clinton’s fatal sleepwalking

    The media covers for Hillary on her email scandal while Trump gallops through the non-stop artillery barrage


    It’s zombie time at campaign Hillary. Behold the dead men walking! It was with strangely slow, narcotized numbness that the candidate and her phalanx of minions and mouthpieces responded to last week’s punishing report by the State Department’s Inspector General about her email security lapses. Do they truly believe, in the rosy alternate universe of Hillaryland, that they can lie their way out of this? Of course, they’re relying as usual on the increasingly restive mainstream media to do their dirty work for them. If it were a Republican in the crosshairs, Hillary’s shocking refusal to meet with the Inspector General (who interviewed all four of the other living Secretaries of State of the past two decades) would have been the lead item flagged in screaming headlines from coast to coast. Let’s face it—the genuinely innocent do not do pretzel twists like this to cover their asses.

    Meanwhile, former Bill Clinton advisor and pollster Douglas Schoen gave the strongest signal yet in a Wall Street Journal op-ed this week (“Clinton may not be the nominee”) that worried backstage huddles in the Democratic party establishment are reaching fever pitch. ...

    The rest may be found here:

  5. Replies
    1. Confirmation bias, since Trump practically "invented" the question (after stealing it from the Hillary Campaign - remeber when Trump was a Hillary supporter?).

    2. In addition to Trump being a demagogue and many other very unflattering things he is an opportunist extraordinaire.

    3. So being opportunistic, like everyone else on the planet, is supposed to be a "vice" now? In "whos'" rule book?

    4. Depends on how you are opportunistic. Consider the underhanded and lying methodology employed by the Trump Man. Ethics ad morality matter. Trump is oblivious to both. So are his kool aid drinkers.

      Never mind. You're like;y saturated in Trump

    5. Yes, lets consider "how" you are opportunistic. Clinton has violated the PUBLIC TRUST for thirty years. Smearing rape victims. Private servers. Soliciting "private" donations for State Department favours granted. Trump has never held it. Hillary Clinton is public corruption personified.

  6. Liberals are rank Hippocrates. Instead of the bleeding hearts they claim to be, they are stingy towards the poor & needy; they are GENEROUS with OTHER PEOPLE'S money. Instead of treating ALL PEOPLE by the CONTENT of their CHARACTER, they are RACIALLY DISCRIMINATORY. Liberals portray CONSERVATIVES as IGNORANT, DUMB, & WITHOUT COLLEGE EDUCATION!
    If Hillary becomes the Party's Nominee, then the Democratic Party, is just as CORRUPT as the Republican Party. Hillary has DECADES of DECEIT & CORRUPTION! The Establishment serve as the GATEKEEPERS to "COVER UP" for the Clintons, so they can reciprocate the political favors, that all the bribes they accepted paid for.
    The Clinton family has been surrounded by ALLEGATIONS of: Sexcapades, treasonous business scandals, criminal activity, drug trafficking & even a number of mysterious deaths!
    The defenders of her crimes are protecting the CROOKED & RIGGED system, because THEY ARE A PART of it. All the donors to her Campaign or Foundation are BUYING INFLUENCE, & PAYING for specific Government decisions.
    It's official! The Clintons are a CRIME FAMILY!
    Clinton for PRESIDENT - surely you jest?!
    However, to actively support & vote for Hillary Clinton is sheer madness. The WICKED WITCH is a known person of OFFENSES, & her Family Foundation is a syndicate of Criminal Enterprise. Keeping Hillary Clinton from controlling the White House is the first step to heal the national disorder of denial.
    Vote Trump, as we need to elect NEW BLOOD.
    A NON-Politician and a Businessman!
    Mr Trump is a VISIONARY & he doesn't do anything without a STRATEGY, & a form of NEGOTIATION already set! He could LEAD this country in the RIGHT DIRECTION! He is an ECONOMIC GENIUS, with skills to make this country Great again! He will be a TOUGH NEGOTIATOR, & our allies will KNOW WHERE HE STANDS. He knows how to SOLVE PROBLEMS, & will surround himself with THE BEST. Lobbyists & Special Interest Groups, will NO LONGER be able to INFLUENCE Congress & BRIBE Congressman! Bills & Legislation will be passed in the interest of America/Americans! End Superpacs running this country!

    1. Hippocrates? Heck of a try. I have two suggestions.

      1. Hypocrites

      2. Matriculation at the Radical Redass Academy of Language Arts and Politicophobia.

    2. Hippocrates? Was that Socrates' pet river horse?

  7. duck, you getting paid for your nonstop posts that display the excrement squirting out of your ears all day long or are you actually doing it for free? :-)

    I'm thinking free. Lol.

    1. Is that what was "pouring out of his esrs"?
      Then how come it was Brown?

    2. Oh look, it's kid and he brought an incoherent sock puppet.

      kid, too young to die,
      too stupid to live.

  8. Hillary is a Criminal and so crooked she is willing to destroy the USA by accepting Bribes from our enemy to feed her and Bill Clinton's desire for power and money.

    Welcome back Lisa, you were missed

    1. That's a very accurate assessment in 50 words or less. Good Job.


  9. Hillary. and Ducky's here, all love niggers!

    1. Congrats impostor and identity theif in proving once again your character deficiency.

      What an asshat you be..

    2. Can I ask you a question, RN? When pShaw does the same thing, why do you still kiss her ass?

    3. I guess for the same reason you kiss FreeThinke's ass.

    4. Because you admire her "ethics". LOL!

    5. I admire truth. Something many here work hard to evade.

    6. I admire truth. Something many here work hard to evade.

    7. As Nietzsche said, "truth" is "relative", the criterion of which is an increased feeling of power.

      But then there are more "objective" truths, but they must give EVERYONE an increased feeling of power. I suspect she gives you many feelings of the former variety, and few of the latter.

    8. In other words, you seem unable to ignore the blonde...

    9. In other words, you seem unable to ignore the blonde...


  10. Clinton aides promised to protect ‘marked
    and unmarked’ classified info

    By Niall Stanage - 06/02/16

    Hillary Clinton opened fire with both barrels on Donald Trump on Thursday, in a speech that was instantly recognized as a big moment in the incipient general election campaign.

    Clinton called Trump “temperamentally unfit” for the presidency during a foreign policy address in San Diego that was infused with disdain for the presumptive GOP nominee.

    The tone and tenor of Clinton’s speech elated Democrats, who have been concerned about opinion polls showing a closer than expected race between her and Trump.

    “She f*ckin' rocked it!!” exulted Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen in an email to The Hill.

    Fears had also been growing about Clinton’s perceived weaknesses as a campaigner as she struggles to close-out Bernie Sanders in a tougher-than-expected Democratic primary.

    The doubts were quieted in the aftermath of the speech.
    Clinton argued that Trump’s version of foreign policy was comprised of “not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies” and asserted that one of his few skills was “composing nasty tweets.” She added — correctly — “I’m willing to bet he’s writing a few right now.”

    On Twitter, Trump complained that “Crooked Hillary no longer has credibility” and followed up by asserting that the former secretary of State was “reading poorly” from a teleprompter and “doesn’t even look presidential.”

    The businessman’s pushback was seen by some as evidence that the former secretary of State had got under his skin.
    Meanwhile, the acclaim for Clinton’s address was near-universal in liberal quarters. The Huffington Post declared it “her best speech yet.” David Axelrod, a former key aide to President Obama who is now a CNN contributor, tweeted that Clinton was “Prosecuting @realDonaldTrump with his own words & to good effect. Brutal takedown.”

    Clinton’s remarks came as her lead against Trump in the RealClearPolitics (RCP) national polling average has dwindled to a negligible 1.5 percentage points. ...

    The rest of the article may be found at the following link:

  11. L.A. Times

    Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in a tight race in California as the campaign batters her popularity

    June 2, 2016

    Hillary Clinton’s popularity has slumped in California under an unrelenting challenge from Bernie Sanders, who has succeeded in breaching the demographic wall Clinton had counted on to protect her in the state’s presidential primary, a new USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll has found.

    As he has done across the country this primary season, Sanders commands the support of younger voters by huge margins in advance of Tuesday’s primary — even among Latinos and Asians, voter groups that Clinton easily won when she ran eight years ago. Many of his backers come from a large pool of voters who have registered for the first time in the weeks before the election.

    Yet, Tuesday’s outcome remains difficult to predict, precisely because of the untested nature of Sanders’ following. That portends an intense fight in the final days of the campaign.

    The Vermont senator has battled Clinton to a draw among all voters eligible for the Democratic primary, with 44% siding with him to 43% for Clinton. That represented a nine-point swing from a USC/Los Angeles Times poll in March, in which Clinton led handily ...

    The rest of the article may be found at the following link

    1. I give you credit, Freethinke.

      You tried to keep this thread substantive.

      It would be worth noting, however, that the complete degeneration came not from progressive posts but the likes of kid and Farmer John and his sock puppet parade.

    2. We could argue long past Christmas as to who is to blame, and it would get us nowhere, Ducky. It's a lot like a virus that infects ALL of us whether we think so or not.

      I do try to contribute substantive remarks, but –– as surely you've noticed ––, invariably they get studiously ignored and then snowed under with witless bickering, and deadly earnest, lead-footed denigration of hated public figures.

      SO, rather than withdraw altogether, and give up in disgust –– always tempting, I admit –– I join in the food fight-style reparté, but do my best to remain literate at the very least while retaining a sense of humor about the ongoing "spectacle." To me it's all a on the level of a old-fashioned Burlesque Show –– or British Music Hall Routines pointedly aimed at the lower classes –– and others who enjoy "slumming" periodically.

      When all semblance of Reason disappears, as it so often does, I resort to posting the words to silly old songs, and quippy little rhymes just for fun.

      The practice beats the usual exchange of tired clichés and ritualized exchange of stupid insults.

    3. Aw... I feel like the kettle getting called out by the pot...

  12. Poor Obama he wanted to sound important as he knocked Donald trump in his stupid speech, but sounded like a stuttering idiot.

  13. Trump hate has driven the Left to violence (San Jose). When will Bernie and Hillary denounce the violent haters?

  14. ...and if they don't, should the gloves come off and should Trump supporters organize a street fighting Sturmabteilung to defend itself?

    Careful what you wish for, Lefties.

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    1. Sorry -FJ, but no cigar. The demagoguery, bigotry, xenophobia, misogyny, and all around dishonesty of Trump is the biggest issue facing the republican party right now.

      HRC, whose occasional dishonesty pales by comparison. Be VERY Careful What YOU Wish For Righties.

    2. The global capitalism that demagogue's it's native population and puts international TRADE harmony is the biggest issue facing BOTH party's right now. That you happen to agree with the "righteous" anti-Trump demagogues speaks volumes about your character. In other words, you have none.

    3. Keep up your psychological projection -FJ. You wear it well.

    4. Is my "psychological projection" responsible for today's dismal job numbers, or does that have anything to do with the nation's current political leadership? Oh, I know. It's all Bush's fault!

    5. There ya go -FJ. As expected. :-)

    6. Can't handle the truth, eh, RN? No surprises here. :)

    7. St-t-t-t-utering again, brainless one?

  16. Hillary Clinton's speech was brilliant, she completly demolished the wimpy wailing thin-skinned draft-dodging America hater, Donald Trump yesterday. What a visual difference between her measured and spot on assessment of Donald the Lying Liar. She is more experienced, more presidential, and more honest (fact) than the fraudster Trump.
    Trump's family will never live down what Donald has done to this country and to the GOP as well.Thank you Hillary.
    Go Hillary!

    1. When is Hillary going to denounce her storm troopers in San Jose?

    2. Hillary speech was "brilliant" only to a few untermenschen neozapatista #nevertrumpers

  17. Do you limp wristed Liberal Progressive, leftists, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyites, Maoists, Castroites, Alinkskyites, Useful idiots, Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Democratic sheep, consider that tripe she spewed in that stupid speech brilliant? I thought it was boring, scripted, old, and lame! And sounded as she looked, like an unlikable old Hag.
    The Donald has not even begun to go to work on Crooked Hillary yet.. . And as Rocky said in the that all ya got! Hillary is going to get SCHLONGED if she dares to debate The Donald.

  18. Hillary’s speech was pathetic, She has so much corruption and lying in her history, there is an endless list of things Trump can and will use against her.

    What’s really sad is that negative attacking is all she has, she has no record of accomplishments to run on, nothing positive in her miserable life.

    The difference is that one is under FBI investigation for CRIMINAL activity and on the payroll of big business’s like Goldman Sacks. . The other one is a SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN who is not PC and uses the same kinds of words that most Americans use.
    And the American people know that and will vote accordingly.
    So, which one do you think has the best chance?
    Hillary's lies and her pile of corruption is well documented. Keep you head in the sand if it makes you feel better, but she is done.
    What amazes me that these Liberals take the side of a pair of misogynists who have destroyed the lives of women.
    And lets not forget that she let 4 Americans die for their personal political gain, I don’t care what they say or deny. Wake up and deal with reality.

    When Trump gets done with her we’ll find that has a lot of skeletons in her closet of pantsuits.

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  20. -H- speech or snoozefest sounded a lot like carters speech against Reagan. According to JC Reagan was a wild eyed dangerous person. I guess -H- read that speech and decided to copy it.
    I guess making 100K on the commodity market in a week shows how smart she is. Maybe it was losing files in the dining room.
    The democrat paid anti-trump demonstrators are not doing her any good by waving the Mexican flag. They need to realize that this is America.
    PP We all should be proud of -H- supporting her soldier hubby just as we are proud of BHO for his military service. As to her measured and spot on speech, she made Carson look exciting.

  21. Trump has demonstrated that he is an unstable demagogue and ignorant of our constitution and laws. A dangerous combination. Now, because of this primary contest, we at least know how many people in our country are willing to vote for a potential authoritarian dictator and change forever what America stands for. Those are the same creatures who howled about Barack Obama fundamentally changing America. Those people, and we can read their screeds on certain rabid right wing blogs such as this one, don't see this threat that is right in front of their noses.

    1. _____ Might Makes Right _____

      No matter how we would defy it
      As we fight through day and night,

      There is no way we could deny it:
Might in truth makes right.

      No matter how for it we long
Justice will be ever missed,

      Because it never did exist.

      Triumph belongs to the strong.

      ~ Old Arcadanian Fable

      Disbelieve that at your peril.

    2. Fear monger much, PP? Hillary's got nothing to offer the American people other than, "Trump is dangerous".

  22. Unbelievable But True!
    On Thursday, while campaigning in California, former Secretary of State and presumptive Democratic nominee for President weighed in on the debate. After being asked for her thoughts on the situation, Hillary Clinton took the opportunity to take some questions about the police violence and racial tension in America.

    When asked about the shooting of the Gorilla in the Cincinnati Zoo, she responded...
    “I will tell you one thing,” Clinton said to a group of reporters. “If that gorilla was white, this situation would have ended differently. This was another senseless act of violence that spawned from prejudicial views about skin color.”

    “Trayvon Martin, Freddie Gray, Michael Brown — now you can add Harambe to that list,” Clinton continued.

    “Another life has been ended because people reacted quickly and let their prejudices overtake their capacity for logical thought.”

  23. Hillary is still sufferings from that concussion from awhile back, she is just not right. She rants like a lunatic, her eye go wide and crazy during her campaigning speeches

    As for Rational Nation USA, you should go back to Germany where you obviously came from.

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  25. Hillary's Race Baiting EPIC FAIL! Do you realize that a 4 year old child was in danger! Hillary tried to twist this for PETA, because PETA has such deep roots in CA, and Hillary calls it a "Senseless Act of Violence"... What, what you POS? It was to save this child! Color of Gorilla had NOTHING to do with having to take the animal down to save this child. Hillary you POS~ that child was a black little boy. Didn't your RACIST a$$ know this before you spoke? You racist POS----> Save a child and have to take down and animal Was ONLY THING TO DO in this case! YOU RACE BAITING POS! YOU THINK THIS GORILLA MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT CHILD.

    Here's what the POS Clinton said:
    “I will tell you one thing,” Clinton said to a group of reporters. “If that gorilla was white, this situation would have ended differently. This was another senseless act of violence that spawned from prejudicial views about skin color.”

    “Trayvon Martin, Freddie Gray, Michael Brown — now you can add Harambe to that list,” Clinton continued.

    “Another life has been ended because people reacted quickly and let their prejudices overtake their capacity for logical thought.

    1. I hadn't read that, but IF what you report is true, then Klintona the Kackling Krook, that refugee from a septic tank is even rottener, crookeder, and more malodorous than previously thought.

      Do you have a source for this?

    2. Come on, Freethinke, of course Mista Sock Puppet doesn't have source. The post is pure caca.

      Bringing up nonsense like this only generates sympathy for Her Nibs.

  26. _______ "Me And My Server" _______

Shades of night are falling and I'm lonely

    Scheming on the hustings feeling blue
Voters wanting fun
Leave me one by one
Guess I'll wind up like I always do

    With only

    Me and My Server

    Opening state secrets to

    Enemy agents
Giving bucks to me not you

    They see me as a rock
For them I’m there
They needn’t knock,

For their dreams I share.

    So, Me and my Server

    Open doors so they’ll come through 

    And when when we’re so in hock

    They’ll climb your stairs
And knock

    Then liquidate your stock

    So, me and my server

    Will really put the screws to you.

    ~ FreeThinke

    Sung to the tune of Me and My Shadow (Al Jolson, 1927)


    This is the story about Hillary and the Gorilla that was killed

    1. Nice try sweetheart.
      You suckers fall for anything

      I enjoyed this:
      "Christian Times Newspaper is your premier online source for news, commentary, opinion, and theories. Christian Times Newspaper does not take responsibility for any of our readers' actions that may result from reading our stories. We make it abundantly aware the [sic] not all stories are necessarily grounded in fact. We do our best to provide accurate, updated news and information."

      All it takes is some bobo like Rusty Chucklenuts putting it on his Facebook page and it's the toast of the fringe right blogosphere, however.
      Now we know where "kid" gets his news so I suppose you accomplished something.

    2. It's a shame that the New York Times isn't required to post a disclaimer like that phony Christian Newspaper. Maybe the State Department needs one as well...

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  29. Hillary Clinton, who is the front-running presidential candidate for the Democrat’s who doesńt do interviews, and how doesn’t answer questions, finally sat down with CNN on and said, "People should and do trust me." New York Times columnist Bill Safire must be rolling in his grave. A 1996 essay of his, "Blizzard of Lies," began, "Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our first lady — a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation — is a congenital liar." White House Press Secretary responded: The lies he catalogued back then included her phony explanation for a 10,000% profit in 1979 commodity trading, which "amounted to a $100,000 bribe"; the firing of White House travel aides, "who were then harassed by the FBI and Justice Department to justify patronage replacement by Mrs. Clinton's cronies"; and "lying when she denied actively representing a criminal enterprise known as the Madison S&L."
    "She is in the longtime habit of lying," Safire wrote nearly two decades ago, "and she has never been called to account for lying herself or in suborning lying in her aides and friends."

    "Trust me" is a game the Clintons have been playing for a long time.
    No candidate has ever been less qualified to hold the office of President...
    And considering the present occupant of the White House, that's really saying something.

    And I blame the Progressive Nazi Politicians, because this is exactly what they do . I blame the over 40% of the American population who are ignorant enough to vote for stooges like Hillary Clinton...
    Everyday we get new articles and more and more proof that she is a crook, lair, thief, and a corrupt politician, and so on we all know for decades that this old shit stain is a corrupt hag, the question is, will she face jail time for all this lawlessness!? Will there ever be a end to this dog and pony show with Hillary Clinton!?

  30. The Trump campaign has not yet responded to Clinton’s comments, but a representative from Black Lives Matter applauded what they called Clinton’s “courageous stand against injustice.”

  31. OFF TOPIC:


    COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .

    ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It’s 5.6%.

    COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

    ABBOTT: No, that’s 23%.

    COSTELLO: You just said 5.6%.

    ABBOTT: 5.6% Unemployed.

    COSTELLO: Right 5.6% out of work.

    ABBOTT: No, that’s 23%.

    COSTELLO: Okay, so it’s 23% unemployed.

    ABBOTT: No, that’s 5.6%.

    COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 5.6% or 23%?

    ABBOTT: 5.6% are unemployed. 23% are out of work.

    COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

    ABBOTT: No, Obama said you can’t count the “Out of Work” as the unemployed. You have to look for work to be unemployed.


    ABBOTT: No, you miss his point.

    COSTELLO: What point?

    ABBOTT: Someone who doesn’t look for work can’t be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn’t be fair.

    COSTELLO: To whom?

    ABBOTT: The unemployed.

    COSTELLO: But ALL of them are out of work.

    ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work. Those who are out of work gave up looking and if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

    COSTELLO: So if you’re off the unemployment roles that would count as less unemployment?

    ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

    COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don’t look for work?

    ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That’s how it gets to 5.6%. Otherwise it would be 23%.

    COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to bring down the unemployment number?

    ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

    COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

    ABBOTT: Correct.

    COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

    ABBOTT: Bingo.

    COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to have people stop looking for work.

    ABBOTT: Now you’re thinking like a Democrat.

    COSTELLO: I don’t even know what the hell I just said!

    ABBOTT: Now you’re thinking like Hillary!

  32. Check this out and learn . If you're really interested you can find the data on how the method of determining the unemployment rate has changed. More than once.

  33. It doesn't matter WHO or When the deceptive practice of calculating the Unemployment Rate was introduced. It still falls under the heading of Blue Smoke and Mirrors –– i.e. Self-serving Government Chicanery.

    As of this moment, very close to NINETY-FIVE-MILLION persons over the age of sixteen are NOT participating in the work force.

    That must be close to HALF the population eligible to look for work. How could that possibly be considered "good" by even the wildest stretchy of the imagination?

    Face it, RN, –– and all you other advocates of Statist-Collectivist-Interventionism out there:


    "Figures may not lie, but liars always figure."

    We long ago reached the point where Government stopped regarding it self as The Servant of the People, reversed course, and decided its job was to act as Our Fearful Master.


  34. So, you are essentially advocating Anarcho-Capitalism. Perhaps out right anarchy?

    You're a very bright individual FreeThinke, and, I accepted much of what you say. Still do, with respect to some things like accepting individual personal responsibility for your actions and taking opportunity by its horns and making the most of it, and respecting the rule of law

    But, the more I read the more I become convinced capitalism is burning itself out. Further I believe it is the natural result of the innovative and dynamic nature of constantly increasing productivity improvements. A good thing.

    However, with increasing productivity, producing more with fewer people (variable overhead/costs) combined with mechanization, and the advent of AI there is going to be a time when there simply will not be work for people. Certainly not work in the conventional sense. In other words people (society) will need to change their paradigms with espect how they view value as it relates to life. Because the work equals self respect paradigm (so right since the first industrial revolution) is going to be blown to hell, the result of mechanization, technology, and AI.

    I doubt you agree FreeThinke but you must admit times are a changing. Faster with more profound implications than ever before.

    BTW, a statist I am not. But I am a realist and I try, not always successfully, to look beyond the confines of a frozen paradigm.

    1. What's more important, cheap efficiently produced products and a society where 90% contribute nothing and are "superfluous", or a society that isn't nearly as "efficient" but 90% of society's members contribute "what they can" and are able to maintain a "respectable" life? The time has come to "choose". And Hillary is choosing the former.

    2. Time to get "Constitutional" old school. Kill TPP. Kill NAFTA. Make America GREAT again!

    3. Your rather myopic view on present realities is not unique anc is to some degree understandable.

      To put it simply many are barking up the wrong tree looking for solutions.

      Mechanization, technology, and AI, whether anyone likes it or not is changing the world and old classical economic theories are going to be swept away.

      We all will be left to deal with it.

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    5. RN, you wouldn't recognize the right tree if it BIT you. You're a brain dead no solution go-along to get along pc idiot.

    6. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. By expressing it as you have you simply reverted to your usual psychological projection. You have no ideas to discuss so you move to personal attract mode. A true Trumpian sheeple.

    7. Insanity is defined as repeating the errors of the past and expecting a different result. Clinton 2016!

      ps- There were ideas in all the above, that you pooh-poohed without rebutting. Look in the mirror, projection boy.

    8. pps - If the old theories have all been swept away, whats your new theory? Oh, that's right, "nothing can be done about it". Go back to e 100 acre wood Eeeyore.

    9. Ever stop and consider that perhaps the "reason" why the "new" (post 1945) economic theories are no longer working is because the ole "discreditted" theories were completely abandoned?

    10. The world is no longer the WWII devastated "Marshall Plan" yeah gloabization economy it was in '45. So why haven't out tade policies changed? Perhaps Hillary should staop taking Saudi donations and ponder the question for a while.

    11. You stop and consider Thersites. I have.

    12. lol! Then stop Bogarting your wisdom, RN. It doesn't do anyone any good if you don't share it. But since you don't... :)

    13. Simply mimicking you in your environment, and by all means do not consider that as a compliment.

      BTW, neither you, -FJ, or FreeThinke addressed the points which were presented in any credible way. Only regurgitation of the same old same old.

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    15. So you're just hear to mimick the world around you. Well you certainly do THAT well. :)

    16. So you're just hear to mimick the world around you. Well you certainly do THAT well. :)

    17. Did not say that asshat. But it certainly is something you and your fellow travelers do incessantly.

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    19. Since you offer no new ideas, just "mimicry, you deserve nothing but contempt. And yet you complain of receiving your just desserts... Who's ass is the hat sitting on, really?

    20. Your empty mimicry? Yes, it is.


    All the troubles of Mankind stem from Man's, apparent, compulsion to DENY, DEFY, and do everything possible to CIRCUMVENT the TRUTH.

    This, of course, is what we're supposed to learn from the parable of Adam and Eve's sad misadventures in the Garden of Eden.

    We never seem to learn that THERE IS NO "EASY" WAY to live life to the fullest.

    I don't deny any the horrific changes taking place, but I never have –– and never will –– regard Change for the Sake of Change as "Progress."

    If people could learn to understand –– and abide by –– the difference between being a "Realist," and being a "Cynic," our species might be able to make genuine Progress.

  36. To anger a conservative , lie to him.
    To anger a liberal, tell him the truth

    1. That Lisa amounts to stereotypical bulls*it. Do you actually believe this accomplishes anything of value? Can't you try to foster critical thinking and reasoned discussion?

      I ask a simple question, what, if anything are you doing different from the liberals you constantly criticize.

    2. From whence does political correctness arise, oh Rational one?

    3. Look in the mirror oh vanquished one.

    4. lol! My speech certainly may represent the PC'ness of the Eighteenth Century, RN, but it certainly does NOT represent the PC'ness of the 21st.

  37. Not all of the changes taking place are horrible. At least not in my way of thinking FreeThinke.

    Truth is vitally important I agree. For that very reason expanding knowledge combined with our growing ecperiences as a society is critical to our very existence. It is how we CHOOSE to use additional knowledge and experience that really matters. IMHO.

    We can neither prove or disprove the existance of a supreme creator, nor does this matter really. I find it interesting that the monotheistic faiths of the world have historically believed their faith is the only true right faith. Setting up perpetual conflict and war. It seems odd to me.

    Man is his own worst enemy, regardless of the choice of faith. Faith has been a dismal failure throughout history and will continue to remain so. Unless and until all faiths truly learn to respect the faith of all others.

    1. I find it interesting that the monotheistic faiths of the world have historically believed their faith is the only true right faith. Setting up perpetual conflict and war. It seems odd to me.

      What should seem odd to you is that the pagan faiths were extremely violent and conflict filled, and yet you single out monotheistic faiths for criticism.

    2. Sounds like you've been bitten by the Raven paradox.

    3. You are by far odder than the monotheistic religions -FJ. Perhaps that is why I find you interesting as well as dangerous.

  38. Contrarian antagonists
    ____ care rarely for what’s true.
    They’re far more eager to denounce,
    –––– so here is what they do.
    Their purpose is to denigrate,
    -––––– belittle and defame.
    Their wish is to humiliate
    –––– in hopes of fixing blame.
    The truth too easily is lost
    –––– in battles of this kind.
    Hectoring and badgering
    ––––– abuse the human mind.
    Instead of curiosity
    ––––– we often find expression
    Of little but indulgence
    ––––– of a passion for aggression.
    When avidness appears
    ––––– to open Vitriol’s loose spigot,
    The one who twists and turns the tap
    –––– is apt to be a bigot.

    ~ FreeThinke

  39. Any view rabidly anti-American
    Energizes the bilious chronic contrarian.
    If it’s foreign and dark,
    His heart sings like a lark,
    But laments when it’s anything Aryan.

    ~ FreeThinke

  40. Replies
    1. I do mean YOU FreeThinke. Calling yourself FreeThinke is indeed to identify yourself as a oxymoronic being.

  41. Listen You a Leftist idiots, And listen good....Hillary Clinton, had classified documents on NORTH KOREA and has been directly responsible for the deaths of several people working as American Informers, also, no less than 18 men and 1 woman died when positons were exposed on her server, within Afghanistan ... WHAT DIFFERANCE DOES IT MAKE? USING A PRIVATE SERVER, SHE KNEW, SHE SIGNED AN UPDATED SECURITY MANUEL... So don't bother telling us about Bush, or Cheney, or Nixon. . You can't compare what was done 16 and 20 years ago.. Lots have changed since then and those people are not running for president . Hillary is and SHE KNEW...AND PISSED ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY. So VOTE TRUMP, VOTE TRUMP..AMERICA FIRST!!!

  42. Another blathering rant from a emotionally charged intellectually sleepy righty.

    BTW, North Korea's leader and Russia s Putin admire Trump. Yup vote Trump.