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Tuesday, November 25, 2014

The Ferguson Verdict

So let's see how you feel about this and why. I am almost afraid to see the responses,but I really would like to know your feelings and why you feel that way.
Was justice served? Was there a need for justice? Who played the biggest role in how this tragedy ended up? How can we prevent these tragedies from happening in the future? Did Obama and Holder help or hurt this?
Please try not to insult each other.
Thank you

97 comments:

  1. Ferguson. An Huffington Post/ MSNBC production.

    'nuff said.

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    2. No, not really.

      Not that you're necessarily wrong that the media didn't throw a little gas on the fire but the conditions behind the act weren't media created.

      Brown was symbolic of a much larger issue and unfortunately, he will be used to deflect attention from legitimate issues.

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    1. Good Lord,things aren't going to change much if this is the way parents are raising their kids

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  3. So now it's the Prosecutor's fault.
    Next!

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  4. The black community always employs a race-baiter like al sharpton don't they? Any bigger racist in this country that is allowed to be allowed on public airways?
    So now they blame the prosecutor, the police force as well as the cop who shot Brown... the cops! Personally I blame Michael Brown for being a thug.

    Rev Al has been calling for riots, pickets, demonstrations, and organizing nation wide chaos. How anyone missed it is mind boggling

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  5. Michael Brown was, indeed, a VICTIM, but not of Darren Wilson, the local police, or of White Culture. Please let me share something I just said at my own blog, because I think it pertains very well to Lisa's question:

    The "underlying cause" of Negro rioting and most of the other hateful, counter-prooductive, self-destrucive activities at the heart of modern Black Culture lies at the feet of the MARXIAN-FABIAN-SOCIALIST-PROGRESSIVE-LIBERAL-STATIST-STINKO-PINKO AGITATORS whose REAL agenda has always been to defame, uproot, destroy and replace our once-predominantly-Christian ethos with godless, inherently tyrannical, COLLECTIVIST ideology.

    Slavery and Jim Crowe were abolished a LONG time ago. It has been in the best interest of Red Agitators ONLY to do everything possible to keep those hideous things alive in the minds of the ignorant people whose challenges the Left seeks always to EXPLOIT to the LEFT'S advantage.

    Not only that, vile influences like our current poor excuse for a president -- an atrocious, utterly venal practitioner of demagoguery, if ever there was one, -- find it works to their advantage to fan the flames of discontent, anger, rebellion, and the unhealthy desire to wreak vengeance.

    In this way America's First Black President is guilty of setting back progress in race relations by at least fifty years.

    As we've seen in "liberated" Sub-Saharan Africa, in Haiti, and as I have seen in the Negro colleges and schools where I, personally, served as a teacher, Negro potentates and authority figures rarely-if-ever give two hoots in hell for the welfare of their own people -- a sad truth no one on the Left would ever deign to acknowledge.

    AGITATORS of ANY stripe are profoundly EVIL.

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  6. AIn't got no blog... did you listen to Sharpton? He specifically said that if you are looting, if you are engaged in violence, if you harm others, you do not speak, or act on behalf of the Brown family, but rather yourself.

    He said it repeatedly and he said it strongly...

    Nowhere did he call people to violence, in fact, he condemned it in very strong terms.

    Did he call for peaceful, non violent protest? Yes he did... which of course is a constitutionally protected action.

    That being said, I'm no fan of Sharpton and would have preferred him not being there, or involved. It is not his city.

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    1. The tragedy is that lost in all this are those who are trying to implement leadership and make a point of the conditions this case symbolizes even if it does so imperfectly.

      But the networks want national figures, Dave. Ministers or social workers familiar with the neighborhood and trying to accomplish something just don't make good national copy.

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    2. Oh please now we are supposed to defend Sharpton?

      I think your in the wrong place for that!!!

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    3. In a proper debate McGarrett, you would offer evidence that Sharpton acted to incite violence in Ferguson.

      As Dave says, he did not.

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  7. There was an unarmed kid shot in a Cleveland playground and another in NYC (I believe) walking down a the stairs of a project high rise unarmed and simply being shot by police on patrol.

    This issue is just going to fester.
    It is probably a correct application of law that the jury did not indict. Ferguson was not the place you'd want to pitch your war tent. To many negatives against Michael Brown. In this life you get the law. You might get justice in the next.

    But there is a much larger issue that is not going to be covered, is probably not going to find leadership and will be hidden under the sensationalism.

    Much of the minority population in America is part of the 20% and growing that has simply been cast off by the economy. Add drugs and guns and you've got a real mess. Right now the resolution is to militarize the police with the expectation of keeping the violence contained.
    The War on Drugs(LMFAO) and gun loon culture just make this more intractable.

    So the rage in the community boils over and the reaction focuses on Brown, further polarizing the population at large.
    Meanwhile those who are trying to constructively organize are upstaged. And it goes on.

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  8. Ducky....stuff it up your ass......you leftwing loons can never utter the words personal responsibility.....the 300 pound thug is dead because he felt he could rob a mini-mart and attack a policeman,he alone is responsible for ending up dead in the street.

    You blaming society for these animal running around burning and looting is just your poor bleeding heart bullshit. Take a hike you friggin idiot.

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    1. Thank you Freethinke/Radical Redneck for displaying your prowess at reasoned conversation.

      Notice that you miss the entire theme of my post because if you were to consider it you would be well out of your comfort zone.

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    2. Get stuffed dirtbag. Noticed you were gone yesterday (not that ANYONE missed you). Undoubtedly off with every other rampaging loser getting your Ferguson discount.

      When the authorities raid your hovel, how many items will have serial numbers matching those of the looted?

      Great shooting Officer Wilson!

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    3. Ducky what that video showed were thugs who were yielding weapons and not cooperating. It didn't mean much if you were trying to make some sort of a point

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    4. Lisa, Lisa, the only one with a weapon was the cop.

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    5. Rusty you lunatic. The cop did not know he robbed the shop. He was confronted becasue he was jaywalking.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etDDT5IcCYc

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  9. Typical liberal response....point to something else/deflect....the subject is the animals running loose in Ferguson.

    The law worked in Ferguson....the policeman fired in self defense...the thug chose to avoid his personal responsibilities as a member of society and ended up dead....case close.

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  10. "Please try not to insult each other."

    Well, Lisa, that sure didn't last very long, did it? ;-)

    Too bad!

    Have a HAPPY THANKSGIVING anyway.

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    1. Well FT, everywhere Radical Redass goes, civility goes out the window.

      He's a peach.

      Have a nice Thanksgiving.

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    2. yeah I see that FT. Boys! lol

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  11. I am glad that the facts were listened to and the officer was exonerated. The thug got what he deserved.

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  12. FT.....your post was the greatest rant....it has been posted on the bulletin board in the Poly-Sci Dept as well as mine. They all are so looking forward to your next spiel.....can you fashion one suitable for the Pyschology group...they would so love one of their own. Keep the laughs coming!!!

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    1. Or they may start a global warming thread and give you a chance to walk over to the science building.

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  13. There is absolutely zero possibility that 1) Lisa is genuinely interested in a proper forum for reasoned didcussion 2) that her regulars are interested in anything but denigrating those with opinions different from there own, 3) some on the left are guilty of not being genuinely interested in opposing views, and 4) this is the way both sides want it.

    We need an honest discussion on race and the underlying problems that created current racial tensions. We need to denounce the violence occurring to innocent business owners and property owners in Ferguson at the same time and allow law enforcement to react to the destructive anarchy that is occurring.

    It is very clear a discussion of the complex underlying issues won't happen in this forum, and likely many others.

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    1. I was told today on a liberal blog I supported repression of minorities groups simply because I view the destruction and lawlessness against innocent victims anarchy.

      Go figure.

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    2. It is very clear a discussion of the complex underlying issues won't happen in this forum

      Then, why again are you wasting your time here?

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    3. That is the left for you RN .I guess they feel the same towards Obama since he condemned the lawlessness as well

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    4. Maybe it's to piss off an A-hole like you Radical Racist Redneck.

      But maybe it's because I, unlike you and the other sock puppets, am capable of seeing all sides of an issue. I keep thinking maybe someday you might grow up and surprise me.

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    5. You hardly have the juice to piss me off. Laughable pity is about it.

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    6. Radical Redneck, I think RN aka Les Carpenter is the fake Lester on the Political Jungle.

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  14. No matter what the outcome, the looters would have looted because to them it is acceptable and they know the police are going to stay on the sidelines.

    Who cares that the report of Brown being shot in the back were 100% false and the "eye witnesses" admitted they didn't see the incident, he just robbed a store and drugs were in his system. This is a chance to loot, burn and have a grand ol time. If the grand jury had made Wilson stand trial, there still would have been looting and riots. Robbing a liquor store is not about emotion it is about free booze.

    There are many victims in this. The business owners who were looted and had their businesses burned. The owner of the convenience store that Brown robbed and Wilson who can no longer have a career in law enforcement.

    RN, there will not be an honest discussion on race because it is the only card a number of public figures have to play. Would Sharpton and Jackson be millionaires if they didn't play the race card. Would Obama have won the election if his handlers didn't play the race card. Face it, money talks and race-baiting is very profitable

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    1. Well, look at it this way, skudrunner, the race baiters also give you a convenient excuse not to deal with race.

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    2. Who is obligated to deal with race? Certainly not me. I aint the one looting, shooting, killing, raping and acting like a feral animal.

      Anyway, aren't we always told we live in a color blind society. Unlike you regressives, I see people as individuals, not usable cogs in a homogeneous group.

      Race is totally irrelevant to those not obsessed with it (the first characteristic of a racist). I have no obligation to deal with race.

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    3. Race is always brought up by the left . Sometimes I think they are full of it and phony about race since they are the only ones who seem to see color first and people second

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  15. Here's the real problem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A

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  16. I just love to sit back and read posts by wingnuts revealing their true racist selves. They really can't help themselves.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  17. See the first pictures of Officer Wilson? He had on a St Louis Blues jersey. He's a hockey player.

    He must be pretty good - he certainly has a great shot! LOL!

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  18. Darren Wilson is doing an interview with George Stepalloverus
    He's cute

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  19. He does not have a tough guy demeanor . I believe every word he said

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    1. We know how the right has a special affinity for racist liars;

      http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/cnns-sunny-hostin-eviscerates-darren

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    2. Pookie Toot-Toot yanks out the race rag again!

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  20. mike brown's parents should apologize to Darren Wilson And Ferguson et al.

    The media should simply state "This be what happen to a brother, or anyone really, who try to kill a police officer, Do Dis no more."

    Then go back to talking about MH17

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    1. Why do you know so much about the MH17 coverage?

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  21. Seriously kid,yes it is a tragedy but such a huge distraction

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  22. Trotting out dozens from a crowd to a grand jury, instructing the jury to take irrelevant considerations, these were not the actions of a prosecutor trying to get to the bottom of something. It looks terrible. Kid looks terrible too.

    JMJ

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    1. Jersey he laid it out in much detail. Many of the witnesses changed their stories. They questioned like 50 people

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    2. Trotting out dozens from a crowd to a grand jury, were not the actions of a prosecutor trying to get to the bottom of something.

      Yeah what a radical concept - interviewing many who were there to find out what happened! Next time they'll do it right - and ask nobody!

      You were dropped on your head a few thousand times in early offspring eh?

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    3. Hey, dipstick. The prosecutor completely controls what evidence is presented to the grand jury.
      There was no attempt to present evidence critical of Evans.

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    4. So you were the court reporter there?

      Look at the bright side - if you brought him to trial he would have been acquitted, and you could never persecute him again. The lack of verdict here will give your fellow travelers more time to contrive witnesses and evidence and ultimately ruin him. That's what you want isn't it?

      This way double jeopardy doesn't ruin your bloodlust

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    5. Who's blood was spilled RRR?

      Oh that's right. The statement was rhetorical.

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    6. Naturally you defend the feral, lawless thug. Good flying monkey - have a cookie

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  23. Someone should have told Mike Brown not to bring a cigar to a gunfight!

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    1. Another non sequitur from Radical Redass,

      You go, boy,

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  25. Rampaging in Oakland now.

    Monkey see, monkey do

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  26. November has been a shitty month for the libs.

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  27. looks like Black Friday came a couple days early.......there go some flat screens and liquor

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  28. The WaPo had this to say about the riots in Ferguson, and I strongly agree with most of the following:

    [W]hat distinguishes Ferguson from the crowded historical catalogue of racially-motivated street violence is what has happened in recent weeks: The unseemly buildup to the announcement of the grand jury’s conclusion that no crime was committed in the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown has produced an expectation of ugliness. What occurred Monday night — and may continue in the days ahead — is rioting as planned event, so pervasively predicted, so extensively prepared for as to obscure the power and meaning of the protests.

    A news media obsessed with predicting the next step, a security apparatus equipped to put down almost any uprising, and a political power structure apparently seeking to head off violence by predicting it have combined to produce an unprecedented sense of inevitability, reducing what has historically been an explosion of frustration to a kind of staged performance....


    The various social media (Twitter, etc.) also a playing a strong role.

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    1. Very sad indeed AOW especially in a poor community that will take years to recover and who would want to open up a business there anymore?

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  29. Shaw Kenawe said...”Charlie Pierce does NOT promote anarchy. Charlie Pierce tells us what precipitated Ferguson.”
    President Obama Speaks After the Grand Jury Decision on Michael Brown Case!

    Charlie Pierce on the Michael Brown Grand Jury Decision!

    WELL WHO REALLY GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU OR CHARLIE PIERCE, SAYS OR THINKS!


    ALL YOU HAVE TO DO YOU STUPID JACK-ASS IS TO TURN ON YOUR TELEVISION SET!
    MAYBE YOU COULD ASK REV. AL TO HELP STOP THE BURNING, KILLINGS, RIOTS, LOOTING, ETC, THAT HE HAS PROMOTED!

    WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN MEANS WHEN AL SHARPTON USES THE PHRASE “PEACEFUL PROTEST,” IT’S DONE WITH A NUDGE AND A WINK.

    Did Charlie Pierce say anything about the throwing of Bottles, rocks, pieces of concrete, and a Molotov cocktails at the Police? Did he say anything about burning down the homes or the businesses of Innocent people? Did he say that Violence is not the answer?

    And where is Ole Floppy Ears these days? Why isn’t he calling for a “Beer Summit”

    Did Michelle Obama send out a hashtag on this one?
    Did the race pimping super duo of Jesse and Al, the professional agitators and Race warriors do anything to stop this, or were they really exploiting this, chaos, havoc, and turmoil, as they have in the past few months to get the attention that they were after?.

    “NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE”.

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  30. Maybe the First Moocher can take to the airwaves and tweet to her followers with some new “Hashtag” ....like chill out you Dudes, we have a great new Recipe for turkey sandwiches using Left-overs!

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  31. Where and when have we heard THIS before?
    Laughing my Lilly White Ass off.
    " Rational Nation USA said...

    And Shaw, I likely won't be visiting here much anymore"

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    1. Shouldn't you be searching for the Temple of Doom IJ?

      Oh that's right. You found it. Lock step eyes closed conservatism Gohmert style.

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  32. It’s indeed very painful to watch the most incredible nation on the face of the earth go down the tubes to a bunch of low life thugs, who have no regard for human life or personal property.
    And just to think, this all started with the election of the First Black president! WOW were we wrong.
    And the sad part is that the Good Black People are going to get the short end of the stick because it is they and the so-called black leaders (Al Sharpton and company) along with Obama, Eric Holder and the rest of the Slime-Bags who refuse to change their own culture by refusing to allow bad behavior and by not banishing drug lords and users from their neighborhoods.

    And because of people like the above mentions FOOLS and the dead-beats, who follow them like Brown's stepfather who raised this Gentle Giant, I have come to the conclusion that the black and white cultures in this country will never co-exist peacefully.

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  33. My but you have a short memory. Either that or you're woefully uneducated. I do not have the time to educate you on US history and if I did you likely wouldn't listen anyway.

    Hold on to your cherished paradigms TV, you're going to need them as your world slips away from you.

    BTW, the USA will do just fine.

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  34. Justice was served.

    Prevention: 1) Stop paying women to pop out mike brown's on an assembly line. 2) Demand accountability. I haven't even heard the most radical of voices call for accountability from the black community who thinks they are above the law. = We embolden these people and we'll get more of it and at a higher volume in the future.

    I actually haven't heard anything form holder, tho if I did, I know it would be libtard racist. I did hear obama deflect all blame for this incident away from mike brown and "[non]family" by stating the real problem is there isn't enough black people on police forces in communities where black welfare thugs want to pretend they are above the law.

    I think that sums it up pretty well.

    PS - Down with Libtards !!!! ;-)

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    1. Kid,
      there isn't enough black people on police forces

      And why is that?

      Well, for one reason, a clean criminal record and no history of past drug use are two of the requirements for being on a police force. Most police forces run a polygraph to try to ascertain if there has been past drug use on the part of applicants. I have a cousin (white) who tried to join the police force. No go. She had, some 4-5 years before, been a cocaine user.

      There are other requirements as well -- including two years of college.

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  35. Thanks you for that irrational rant.

    As usual you're half full of sh*t.

    Down with conservatard!!!! ;-)

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  36. Come on...get real,even you bleeding hearts.

    This 300 lb thug robbed a mini-mart,roughed up an employee of said mini-mart then proceeded to walk down the middle of a city street....daring the police.

    This thug then attacked an officer while he's sitting in his patrol car,punching the officer and trying to get his gun.

    Now what part of this action makes the cop the bad guy?

    This thug was put down and it was a blessing for society....how long would it had taken for this gangster to cause havoc on a city street?

    IMO the officer saved a future confrontation with this bozo and he should get a medal.

    And you bleeding hearts who continue to blame the ills of society can write your complaints on paper.....roll them up.....and stuff them up your asses.

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    1. Intelligent Chucklenutz Shackelford. Yo mama be proud.

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    2. Ooh! Whitey boy Lester Carpenter speak ebonic.

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  37. Rational Nation USA Said”

    “Thanks you for that irrational rant.As usual you're half full of sh*t.
    Down with conservatard!!!! ;-)”



    And what in the FUCK do you LIBERAL’S, - PROGRESSIVES, want, the freedom to STRONG ARM ROB, the freedom to ROUGH UP A STORE CLERK who is half the size of these “UN-armed Gentle Giant’s” , or the freedom to BEAT UP COPS... or maybe just the freedom to do ALL OF THE ABOVE?

    There's no fucking TRUTH in a word you said, idiot.
    This entire issue is about BLACK THUG, who ROBBED A STORE, then ROUGHED UP THE CLERK, then BEAT ON A COP, and TRIED TO GET HIS WEAPON AND GOT SHOT TRYING. What fucking part about that is CONSERVATIVES CRYING TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT
    Conservatives are for supporting Law and Order over Criminals and Lawlessness. And for protecting the Innocent!
    Once again the far left narrative will always trump reality..

    YOU people want to march to support THUGS? Go right ahead and have fun with that. But when the time comes that one of these “Gentle Giant’s” BEAT UP and ROB your wife, or your grandma, or your Daughter, don’t call a Cop, call Al Sharpton!

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    1. Nope.

      A) I am not a progressive.

      B) You can read my views @ my site.

      C) You have no idea what you're talking about but you certainly parrot talking points well.

      D) Take it easy and chill out man before you have a stroke.

      PS: Have a Happy Thanksgiving. If you can.

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  38. Maybe your mama be proud of me RN. You and your "lets all talk and get along" bullshit makes you appear the wussy you are.

    You can continue to try and be the darling of the progressive blogs,but fact is you're just a weak willed pussy.

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    1. Chucklenutz Shackelford my mamma would kick your pussyfied sorry ass, if she were living.

      Now go live your delusions and talk to somebody who gives a shit.

      You're a pathetic waste of perfectly good O2.

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    2. Lester Carpenter, look in the mirror before you caw off!

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  39. I'd guess the poor woman died from embarrassment having a girly man for a son.

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  40. Whatever jackass.

    Having absolutely NOTHING of any substance whatsoever you resort to personal attacks. Have fun and FO.

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  41. Personal attacks? That coming from the prince of sarcastic comments.

    RN,you're such a pussy.

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    1. Nothing but more projection from the projectors supremo.

      Keep slogging. ..

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    2. Lester Carpenter, you keep drowning yourself with every retort you post.

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  42. Sarcasm is not a personal attack. Get educated. Niw, FO.

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